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Deadly Ukraine Crash: German Intelligence Claims Pro-Russian Separatists Downed MH17

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Burning debris at the crash site of Malaysian Airllines Flight MH17 in eastern Ukraine on July 17: "It was pro-Russian separatists," the head of Germany's foreign intelligence agency, the BND, has told parliament of the crash cause. Zoom

Burning debris at the crash site of Malaysian Airllines Flight MH17 in eastern Ukraine on July 17: "It was pro-Russian separatists," the head of Germany's foreign intelligence agency, the BND, has told parliament of the crash cause.

Germany's foreign intelligence agency says its review of the crash of a Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 in Ukrainian has concluded it was brought down by a missile fired by pro-Russian separatists near Donetsk.

After completing a detailed analysis, Germany's foreign intelligence service, the Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND), has concluded that pro-Russian rebels were responsible for the crash of Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 on July 19 in eastern Ukraine while on route from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur.

In an Oct. 8 presentation given to members of the parliamentary control committee, the Bundestag body responsible for monitoring the work of German intelligence, BND President Gerhard Schindler provided ample evidence to back up his case, including satellite images and diverse photo evidence. The BND has intelligence indicating that pro-Russian separatists captured a BUK air defense missile system at a Ukrainian military base and fired a missile on July 17 that exploded in direct proximity to the Malaysian aircraft, which had been carrying 298 people.

Unambiguous Findings

Evidence obtained shortly after the accident suggested the aircraft had been shot down by pro-Russian militants. Both the governments of Russia and Ukraine had mutually accused each other of responsibility for the crash. After a Dutch investigative commission reviewed the flight recorder, it avoided placing any blame for the crash. Some 189 residents of the Netherlands perished in the downing of Flight MH17.

BND's Schindler says his agency has come up with unambiguous findings. One is that Ukrainian photos have been manipulated and that there are details indicating this. He also told the panel that Russian claims the missile had been fired by Ukrainian soldiers and that a Ukrainian fighter jet had been flying close to the passenger jet were false.

"It was pro-Russian separatists," Schindler said of the crash, which involved the deaths of four German citizens. A spokesman for the German Federal Prosecutor's Office told SPIEGEL that an investigation has been opened into unknown perpetrators because of the possibility that the crash had been a war crime.

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1. proof
michaelw 10/19/2014
I am seeing NO proof, just statements not backed up by anything credible. Why is thge proof not being presented if it exists. Just saying something doesn't make it true. The story is rather unbelievable at this moment. It seems clear it was a Ukrainian weapon that was used. I cannot see how anything mentioned here proves who used it. And if UKRAINIAN???? photos were manipulated, that implies nothing so far without saying how (i.e. what was exactly manipulated, why and by who. Who knows if it is not German Intelligence manipulating right now? You all have agendas!
2. MH17 Proof of Proof
phillipalstonbutler 10/19/2014
It would seem by now mainstream media might demand, or at least attempt to, ferret out some of this alleged evidence. We have so far, every leader in the western world claiming Putin downed MH17, rebels downed it, and so far not one shred of evidence to support the claims. Now we have the German spy guys testing the waters to see if we'll bite again over hearsay. Can we please see the pictures now?
3. German Propaganda Lies
Republic of Donetsk 10/19/2014
Here again German News whores for the U.S. by printing unproven rhetoric of evidence divulged to nobody.
4. manipulations
milorad.crni 10/19/2014
Wouldn't be much more credible for BND to get out with the proof before accusation after so many manipulations?
5. 2 questions
asimpleguest 10/19/2014
why Ukrainian Gov dispatched 3 BUK systems in Donetsk area on Wednesday the 16th of July, knowing that the pro-federalist did not have airplanes? do you know that ''Militias in the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk people’s republics do not have Ukrainian air defense missile systems Buk and S-300 at their disposal, Ukrainian Prosecutor-General Vitaly Yarema told Ukrainian Pravda newspaper on Friday.''
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