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Muslim Brotherhood's Rashad al-Bayoumi: 'The Revolution Will Continue Until Our Demands Are Met'

The West is worried that the Islamist group Muslim Brotherhood will take on an influential role in post-Mubarak Egypt. SPIEGEL spoke with the group's deputy leader, Rashad al-Bayoumi, about what the Brotherhood wants, the West's "refusal to listen," and non-violence.

Anti-government protests continued over the weekend as demonstrators continue to insist that Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak step down immediately.Zoom
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Anti-government protests continued over the weekend as demonstrators continue to insist that Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak step down immediately.

SPIEGEL: Are we seeing the beginning of a new era for Egypt?

Bayoumi: After 30 years of oppression, corruption and dictatorship, we are definitely standing at a crossroads. The question now is do we want to make way for democracy and human rights, or do we still want dictatorship? The revolution will continue until our demands are met.

SPIEGEL: And what are they?

Bayoumi: First, we need a regime change. We want a new government. Second, we need new elections. The current parliament has no legitimacy and only took office following massive election fraud. Third, all political prisoners must be released immediately. We want justice. And, finally, we need a transitional government that includes representatives from all opposition groups.

SPIEGEL: Does this transitional government also include leading opposition figure Mohamed ElBaradei? Do you accept him as a candidate?

Bayoumi: Our demands are compatible with the demands of all opposition groups, including the young people -- and not just from within the political parties. It is, however, too early to talk about new leaders. Now the people will first have to decide -- let's let the people speak.

SPIEGEL: The Muslim Brotherhood is widely regarded as the largest opposition movement in Egypt. Why are you not present at the demonstrations?

Bayoumi: That is ridiculous! Of course we are present. But we are keeping a low profile as an organization. We are not marching with our slogans. We don't want this revolution to be portrayed as a revolution of the Muslim Brothers, as an Islamic revolution. This is a popular uprising by all Egyptians.

SPIEGEL: In the West there is the fear that the Brotherhood is preparing to take power -- that they want to transform Egypt into an Islamic state.

Bayoumi: The West refuses to listen to us. We are not demons. We want peace, not violence. Our religion is not a diabolical religion. Our religion respects people of other faiths, these are our principles. But this regime purposely misrepresents us and manipulates public opinion.

SPIEGEL: How many members does your movement have?

Bayoumi: I don't know -- we don't count them. The government says that there are over three million of us. All I know is that we are everywhere, in every city, every village, every neighborhood. We are an essential part of the people.

SPIEGEL: How many Egyptians would vote for you if free elections were actually held in the near future?

Bayoumi: Let's wait until the people speak. This is a period of upheaval and democratic transition. That is what we want to talk about now, not election results.

SPIEGEL: Will calm return to Egypt?

Bayoumi: The government is solely responsible for the chaos. I promise you that the Muslim Brotherhood has not called for violence, nor will we do so.

Interview conducted by Daniel Steinvorth and Volkhard Windfuhr

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About Rashad al-Bayoumi
Daniel Steinvorth /DER SPIEGEL
Rashad al-Bayoumi, 76, is a deputy leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
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Members of the Islamist group Muslim Brotherhood took part in initial talks between protesters and the Egyptian government on Sunday -- the first such talks since anti-government demonstrations began two weeks ago. While Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak still has not met demands that he step down, the meeting with the Muslim Brotherhood, which has been banned in Egypt since 1954, is a strong indication of the degree of change already wrought by the demonstrators.

The Brotherhood has kept a low profile in the protests that have paralyzed the country since Jan. 25. But it remains the best-organized opposition group in Egypt with analysts estimating that it could win between 20 and 30 percent in general elections.

Following the Sunday talks, the Egyptian government issued a statement saying that the two sides had agreed on a draft timeline for further negotiations. Senior Muslim Brotherhood member Abdel Monem Aboul Fotouh, said that the statement, issued by Vice President Omar Suleiman, indicated "good intentions, but does not include any solid changes."

Other opposition groups likewise criticized the government for not giving in to the central demand that Mubarak step down. Nobel Peace Prize laureate and prominent opposition figure Mohamed ElBaradei criticized the negotiations and said that he had not been invited. "It is all managed by the military, and that is part of the problem," he told US television station ABC on Sunday.


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