Michael Wolff on His Latest Trump Book “There Was No Plan. He Is Deranged”

During the reporting of his latest book on the attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6, “Fire and Fury" author Michael Wolff says he got an invitation to meet the former president at Mar-a-Lago. In an interview, he tells DER SPIEGEL what ensued.
Interview Conducted By Marc Pitzke
Former President Donald Trump: "This guy gets big ratings, so let's see him."

Former President Donald Trump: "This guy gets big ratings, so let's see him."

Foto: Carlos Barria / REUTERS
DER SPIEGEL 28/2021
SPIEGEL International
Journalist Michael Wolff at his home in the Hamptons

Journalist Michael Wolff at his home in the Hamptons

Foto: Sara Naomi Lewkowicz / DER SPIEGEL
Protesters during the storming of the Capitol Building on Jan. 6

Protesters during the storming of the Capitol Building on Jan. 6

Foto: David Butow / Redux / laif
Writer Michael Wolff and DER SPIEGEL correspondent Marc Pitzke during the interview

Writer Michael Wolff and DER SPIEGEL correspondent Marc Pitzke during the interview

Foto: Sara Naomi Lewkowicz / DER SPIEGEL
Trump and his wife Melania at Mar-a-Lago in 2016

Trump and his wife Melania at Mar-a-Lago in 2016

Foto: ZUMA Press / IMAGO
"I just heard that he thought Jeffrey Epstein was murdered and had not killed himself in jail."